Date: September 25, 1972

Time: 12:49 pm – 1:09 pm

Location: Oval Office

The President met with Dr. Charles A. (“Carl”) Hoffman, Kenneth R. Cole, Jr., and James H.

Cavanaugh; the White House photographer was present at the beginning of the meeting.

Greetings

[Photograph session]

Edward M. Kennedy health insurance plan

-Political aspects

-Democratic platform

-1972 election

-Philosophy

-Cost

-Numbers of doctors, hospitals, nurses

-Medicare

-Hoffman’s forthcoming talk to dentists, doctors

-Hoffman’s recent talk to insurance group

-Kennedy’s 1971 statement to American Medical Association

[AMA]

-Dr. Benjamin Rush Award

Medical profession

-The President’s personal contacts

-Dr. John C. Lungren

-New York

-Dr. Victor DeLuccia

-Public relations

-Business community

-International cooperation

-Soviet Union

-The People’s Republic of China [PRC]

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-Developments in medicine

-Youth, women

-Cancer, heart disease, arthritis

-The President’s previous meeting with Soviet Union Minister of Health

[Boris V. Petrovsky]

-Petrovsky’s health

-Open heart surgery

-US-Soviet Union

-Resident’s interchange

-Specialty groups

-Hoffman’s letter to the President

-New York

-Hospitals

-Rural areas

-Soviets

-The PRC

-Genetics

-Asians

-Japanese, Chinese

-Caucasians

-Acupuncture

-The President’s conversation with Chou En-

Lai and other leaders

-Cancer

-Political barriers

-Medical cooperation

Hoffman’s forthcoming trip to American Indian reservations, January 1973

-Audrey Cameron

-Hoffman’s age

-Hoffman’s interests

Medical profession

-International cooperation

-The President’s conversation with PRC nurses

-Arms control

-Disease

-Hoffman’s previous trip to the Soviet Union

-Georgia’s Minister of Health

-The PRC

-Health care

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-Fact finding

-Japanese

-Western Europe

-US

-Cooperation with smaller countries

-Africans

-Latin America

-Number of doctors

-Hoffman’s visit to Nairobi, Kenya, 1971

-Medicine

-Latin America

-Hoffman’s possible trip to encourage doctors

Hoffman’s plans

-The PRC situation

-Schedule

-Hawaii, December, 1972

-Possible trip to PRC

-Chicago [?]

-AMA

-Doctors in rural areas

-Richmond, Milwaukee, Denver

-Cavanaugh

-Resident interchange

U.S. medical system

-Lawyers

-The President’s background

-Doctors

-Change

-Kennedy health insurance plan

-Quality

-Comparison to Great Britain

-Changes

-Catastrophic insurance coverage

-Burns, strokes

-Distribution of physicians

-Catastrophic insurance coverage

-Hoffman’s background in Urology

-Avoiding abuses

-Listing conditions

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-Hemophilia, strokes, heart surgery

-Time

-Hoffman’s previous dinner with unknown

Department of Health, Education an

Welfare [HEW] official

-Burn cases

The President’s family

-[Harold Nixon]

-Health

-Tuberculosis

-Frank Nixon, Hannah Milhous Nixon

Hoffman’s first wife

-Tuberculosis

The President’s family

-Harold Nixon

-Pneumothorax

Improvements in medicine

-Pneumonia

-Carbuncle

-Compared to boil

-Antibiotics

The President’s family

-Frank Nixon

-Health

-Age at death

-Arthritis

-Gout

The President’s previous meeting with Petrovsky

-Arthritis

The President’s previous visits to senior citizens home

-Cortisone

Medical research

-Arthritis

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-Cancer

-Urology

-Progress

-Arthritis

-Types

-Atrophic

-Hypertrophic

-Therapy

Hoffman, Cavanaugh, and Cole left at 1:09 pm.